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Offline davetaff

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2018, 09:09:13 AM »

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Hilarious Dave. Do you seriously imagine that a united love of money will bring peace. Did you not listen to what scripture says, "The love of money is the root of all evil!"
Is such evil going to bring peace?
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Hi Frances
Thank you for your reply but the only point I was trying to make was the evil of the love of money was what was holding the EU together that it's going to continue is very doubtful in light of

.6  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. (Compare)

 7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

 8  All these are the beginning of sorrows       


We see this all around us so hopefully our Lords return is not to far  of.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2018, 02:25:18 PM »
The real issue here is that the end time kingdom that the New World Order are building, has nothing to do with Christ.

Global banking corporations, corporate industries, together with Marxist politicians, are building a world government on behalf of Satan, the god of this world. This is Babylon rebuilt, and it will be destroyed at Christ's coming. Unfortunately, in the mean time it will be the most sntichrist government the world has ever seen.

The call of Jeremiah remains as true today as it was thousands of years ago.-
Jeremiah 50v 8Flee from the midst of Babylon; depart from the land of the Chaldeans; be like the he-goats that lead the flock.

This call was repeated again in Revelation especially for people today.
Rev18v4Then I heard another voice from heaven say: ?Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues.

There should be no ambivalence amongst Christians when it comes to this subject, we must depart the EU Babylon asap with a no deal hard Brexit. God gave this nation its sovereignty, to sell it to a foreign power as was done by Ted Heath in the 70s, is treason, pure and simple.
Ted Heath should have been executed for what he did.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2018, 08:46:40 PM »
Trouble?
Because the majority voted for Brexit when we are not going to get it.

Offline francis drake

Re: Brexit
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2018, 09:48:00 AM »
Because the majority voted for Brexit when we are not going to get it.
That's why we must keep praying.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2018, 02:40:47 PM »
Hi Frances
thank you for your reply

 
The real issue here is that the end time kingdom that the New World Order are building, has nothing to do with Christ.
   
This is very true it stands for everything Christ is not 

Global banking corporations, corporate industries, together with Marxist politicians, are building a world government on behalf of Satan, the god of this world. This is Babylon rebuilt, and it will be destroyed at Christ's coming. Unfortunately, in the mean time it will be the most sntichrist government the world has ever seen.

again this is true I would like to add that no matter what we do weather we stay in or leave the EU the world wide rebuilding of Babylon will continue and the UK will be a part of it the best thing we can do is stand to one side and let Satan get on with it Only the coming of Christ can stop it and the best thing we can do is pray for that day to come soon     

The call of Jeremiah remains as true today as it was thousands of years ago.-
Jeremiah 50v 8Flee from the midst of Babylon; depart from the land of the Chaldeans; be like the he-goats that lead the flock.

Bit like I said above don't take sides we can not change anything God has told us these things must be only He can do anything about it the best thing we can do is abstain and Pray.     

This call was repeated again in Revelation especially for people today.
Rev18v4Then I heard another voice from heaven say: ?Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues.

Come out of her to me this means have nothing at all to do with her there are only two choices satans Babylon or Christs Kingdom I have chosen the latter Babylon has been doomed from its conception     

There should be no ambivalence amongst Christians when it comes to this subject, we must depart the EU Babylon asap with a no deal hard Brexit. God gave this nation its sovereignty, to sell it to a foreign power as was done by Ted Heath in the 70s, is treason, pure and simple.
Ted Heath should have been executed for what he did.

Babylon the great will encompass the entire globe no country will escape the UK is no exception it will be gobbled up by satan  "  God gave this nation its sovereignty " On what scripture do you base this statement.
As for putting Ted Heath to Death this could be tantamount to murder and It was not Ted heath but the British people who voted to join the EU   


Love and Peace
Dave

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2018, 10:43:58 PM »

Babylon the great will encompass the entire globe no country will escape the UK is no exception it will be gobbled up by satan  " 
If that were true, then the following prophetic call to come out of Babylon makes no sense.-
Rev18v4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Even if Babylon eventually rules the planet, there is no reason why we should be a part of it today. Babylon as a demonic entity controlling events from behind the scenes, has never ceased to influence the nations, but it is still a nation's free choice whether to submit to it.
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God gave this nation its sovereignty " On what scripture do you base this statement.
Deut32v7Remember the days of old; consider the years long past. Ask your father, and he will tell you, your elders, and they will inform you. 8When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
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As for putting Ted Heath to Death this could be tantamount to murder
Judicial execution for the crime of treason is not murder!
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and It was not Ted heath but the British people who voted to join the EU    [/color]
Wrong Dave. Ted Heath took this nation into the Common Market via a campaign of lying to the Cabinet, to Parliament, and to the people. It was just his decision with absolutely no vote. The referendum which came later, was not about joining, but about whether we should remain in the Common Market, and just like 3rd June 2016 the lead up to it was done with a mass campaign of lies and disinformation.
To my shame, as a know nothing youngster, I believed the government lies and voted accordingly.
I no longer believe the government on anything till I have tested it elsewhere.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2018, 04:00:31 PM »
Hi Frances
Thank you for your post what can I say we most proberbly never agree on this do you not think that all the great financial houses in London and the Uk as a whole ar not already part of Babylon the great I do we cannot escape what has been prophesied.
As you rightly say in your quote " come out of her " where shall we go where ever we go in the world Babylon is there what ever we choose in the world will be wrong so what did our Lord have to say to us.

Joh 17:14  I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh 17:15  I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
     


So we are not of the world but we of the body of Christ we are separated from the world we are above all this petty squabbling and fighting of politicians acting like little children in a sand pit who can make the biggest sand castle and trying to knock every one else's down.
we are not of  the world as our Lord is not of the world the best we can do is try to save a few out of the world.


Love and Peace

Dave     

Offline francis drake

Re: Brexit
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2018, 10:38:03 AM »
Hi Frances
Thank you for your post what can I say we most proberbly never agree on this do you not think that all the great financial houses in London and the Uk as a whole ar not already part of Babylon the great I do we cannot escape what has been prophesied.
You are quite correct Dave about Babylon in London and world financial houses, but there is a world of difference between what goes on in the banking system and having a government that surrenders political control of this nation to a Babylon based foreign power. That's the definition of treason, at one time a capital crime.

And your comment that "we cannot escape what has been prophesied", is a straw man argument. Nothing of bible prophecy states that Britain, at this point of time, must subject itself to Babylon. Babylon will certainly rule at the very end, but Britain still has a free choice.

Many scriptures prophesy that man will rebel against God, so according to your theologising, we should join in that rebellion, after all its fulfilling prophecy isn't it?
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As you rightly say in your quote " come out of her " where shall we go where ever we go in the world Babylon is there what ever we choose in the world will be wrong so what did our Lord have to say to us.

Joh 17:14  I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh 17:15  I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
     


So we are not of the world but we of the body of Christ we are separated from the world we are above all this petty squabbling and fighting of politicians acting like little children in a sand pit who can make the biggest sand castle and trying to knock every one else's down.
we are not of  the world as our Lord is not of the world the best we can do is try to save a few out of the world.
The belief you have expressed above Dave, typical of many Christians, is the entire direct reason this nation is in such a godless demonic mess.
When Christians abdicate their God given responsibility as salt and light in this world, then everything is left entirely in the hand of Satan and wicked men, just as we see in Britain today.

Dave, put your thinking hat on for just one moment. Where would this country (and indeed the world) be if William Wilberforce had followed your theology?

Wilberforce spent all his adult fighting slavery in Parliament. He was a faithful God fearing man and knew that he had been called to that work.

If Wilberforce (or some other such person) had not taken his faith into Parliament to confront the system, then slavery would have continued to this day.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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