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Offline francis drake

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« on: July 10, 2018, 08:23:24 AM »

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Thank God for David Davis's conscience, and of course Boris Johnson's decision in resigning from Theresa May's cabinet. Hopefully, others will follow.

I've been praying for Brexit for 25 years, we are on the brink, and still the Westminster elite are intent on keeping this  nation subservient to a foreign power in Brussels.

In past generations, such people would have been executed for treason, now such treason is celebrated.

Keep praying.


Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2018, 11:38:59 AM »
Hi Frances
Well I voted to join the EU and have not changed my mind the only reason I voted was I thought it Europe was united there would not be another war between European countries and this has proved to be true.
On the other hand are we Christians not striving for a United world under one King Jesus Christ our Lord so if Christ thinks it a good idea to be united and working together for peace and prosperity then so do I.
I think part of the problem is that those who voted to leave are still under the illusion that great Britten is still Great but then days are over.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline francis drake

Re: Brexit
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2018, 03:27:58 PM »
Hi Frances
Well I voted to join the EU and have not changed my mind the only reason I voted was I thought it Europe was united there would not be another war between European countries and this has proved to be true.
Peace in Europe since the war has been maintained entirely by NATO, not the EU.
In fact since the collapse of the Soviet empire, the EU itself has been the biggest threat to peace, its expansionism of the EU in an eastern direction is entirely provocative to Russia.
That can be seen in the Ukraine, where EU interference on Russia's doorstep has led to a major conflict.
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On the other hand are we Christians not striving for a United world under one King Jesus Christ our Lord so if Christ thinks it a good idea to be united and working together for peace and prosperity then so do I.
Wake up Dave, the current New World Order you are supporting is the one being created by Satan not God!
The current NWO edifice is an antichrist manifestation of Babel all over again. You can see that in all the architecture and paraphernalia around Brussels and Strasbourg Parliament buildings which openly boast of recreating Babel!
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Mountain Goat

Re: Brexit
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 11:28:41 PM »
Regardless of which way one voted, I'm amazed that we have not had any trouble.


Offline francis drake

Re: Brexit
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2018, 09:23:58 AM »
Regardless of which way one voted, I'm amazed that we have not had any trouble.
Trouble?
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 10:29:06 AM »
The trouble will come when those who think they can get a better deal from the EU, discover that they won,'t budge from where they are now and the deadline for leaving is imminent.

That is when we'll have trouble, an exit deal that is dictated by the EU.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2018, 05:04:16 PM »
Hi Frances
You said
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Peace in Europe since the war has been maintained entirely by NATO, not the EU.
In fact since the collapse of the Soviet empire, the EU itself has been the biggest threat to peace, its expansionism of the EU in an eastern direction is entirely provocative to Russia.
That can be seen in the Ukraine, where EU interference on Russia's doorstep has led to a major conflict.
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I am not really interested in who keeps the peace in Europe jest that its kept and its far easer to keep the peace if countries are united in my humble opinion and if they are united in love even if its the love of money.

I may be stupid but I'm not daft there has always been wars and they will continue the reason being of course is the love of money there are gigantic fortunes  to made from armaments and the rebuilding after a war.

I have absolutely no control over what countries do or don't do but I know some one who does.

Rom 13:1  Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2  Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
     


So Gods in charge everything will come to pass according to his will so why worry.

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Wake up Dave, the current New World Order you are supporting is the one being created by Satan not God!
The current NWO edifice is an antichrist manifestation of Babel all over again. You can see that in all the architecture and paraphernalia around Brussels and Strasbourg Parliament buildings which openly boast of recreating Babel!     


Where on earth did you get the idea that I support any world order I told you why I voted it was not for any political reasons just self preservation.


So if look at the text above we see that its God who is in charge so the big Question is why dose he allow evil I think the  answer is in Genesis.

Gen_3:22  And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
   


To become like God we must have the knowledge of Good and evil and choose the good which is LOVE.

Love and Peace
Dave


 

Offline francis drake

Re: Brexit
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2018, 10:20:25 PM »
Hi Frances
You said

I am not really interested in who keeps the peace in Europe jest that its kept and its far easer to keep the peace if countries are united in my humble opinion and if they are united in love even if its the love of money.
Hilarious Dave. Do you seriously imagine that a united love of money will bring peace. Did you not listen to what scripture says, "The love of money is the root of all evil!"
Is such evil going to bring peace?
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Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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