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Offline Collin

The mark of the beast
« on: May 21, 2018, 04:15:40 AM »

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     The number stands for John himself and his gospel and the 6 is for chapter 6 and the verse 66.Just before that verse you see Jesus telling the larger number of disciples he had following him at that time, they would have to eat his flesh. The were grumbling about it and said it was too hard a saying for them to understand. Then he said they would have to eat his flesh and drink his blood to have life in them and without it they had no life in them. I've been saying this to the world but they too say the same now. You can see then in verse 66 they left him and that the Mark. He has the words to the kingdom and they are Spirit and the Spirit is the life but when people won't take these teachings they are once again as bruit beast. When you are in God's hands the Spirit is the strengh and it is your right hand and Jesus is our head but to return and leave him is the for head. People think they are still with him but not so. He is the life, the Spiritual knowledge and that is the light of God the he said let there be light right from the beginning.That is the word of God that was made flesh as it says in the beginning of John's gospel. And you can see there where it says he was the light.

  That's the mark of the beast .



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Offline francis drake

Re: The mark of the beast
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2018, 11:08:29 AM »
     The number stands for John himself and his gospel and the 6 is for chapter 6 and the verse 66.

Come on Collin, be sensible!

What you claim here is completely impossible, as there were no chapter and verse numbers in the bible till over 1500 years later, as the quote below explains.-

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The person credited with dividing the Bible into chapters is Stephen Langton, the Archbishop of Canterbury from 1207-1228. While Langton?s isn?t the only organizational scheme that was devised, it is his chapter breakdown that has survived.
But while chapters are a useful organizational tool, the ability to refer to specific phrases within those chapters would make the system even more usable. Robert Stephanus (aka Robert Estienne) created a verse numbering system in the mid-16th century and was the first person to print a Bible with verse numbers in each chapter.[/color]
I've pasted one among countless other web articles that show John's gospel etc had no numbering at the time it was written.
Sorry Collin, but your theology is built on completely false foundations.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Collin

Re: The mark of the beast
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2018, 11:33:09 AM »
Come on Collin, be sensible!

What you claim here is completely impossible, as there were no chapter and verse numbers in the bible till over 1500 years later, as the quote below explains.-

I've pasted one among countless other web articles that show John's gospel etc had no numbering at the time it was written.
Sorry Collin, but your theology is built on completely false foundations.


   Did you even read what I said or the chapter as i wrote. So what is your explaination, they put a chip in arm. What I write is as the Lord himself taught me so who is teaching you.

Offline francis drake

Re: The mark of the beast
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 02:08:16 PM »

   Did you even read what I said or the chapter as i wrote. So what is your explaination, they put a chip in arm. What I write is as the Lord himself taught me so who is teaching you.

Before posting above, I didn't bother to read the verses as your justification for it was false and provably irrelevant.
Having now read it, I even more see how irrelevant it is, and obviously not taught by Jesus as you claim.

As for my explanation, I have long believed that the Mark of the Beast will be some sort of RFID implant.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Collin

Re: The mark of the beast
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2018, 10:15:50 AM »
Before posting above, I didn't bother to read the verses as your justification for it was false and provably irrelevant.
Having now read it, I even more see how irrelevant it is, and obviously not taught by Jesus as you claim.

As for my explanation, I have long believed that the Mark of the Beast will be some sort of RFID implant.

   In the bible all things are named and likened unto as you find the explanation in there. Like a man that eats the crumbs that fall from the Lords table is considered or likened unto as a DOG. Treads thew word under foot is a swine.Wise in his own worldly way the are foxes. And so on. A senseless and ignorant is as a beast. So if he is without the words of Jesus and ignorant of those teachings he is marked as a beast.There is no physical mark.
   So when the disciples left Jesus and his teachings they became ignorant as the beast. Look at psalms 73 v22

Offline John

Re: The mark of the beast
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2018, 12:15:31 PM »
It's interesting that when some people are shown to be wrong they unlike a wise man do not welcome correction, but rather reply with insults.

proverbs has a lot to say about how the wise respond to correction and how the foolish reject both correction and the one correcting them.

Offline francis drake

Re: The mark of the beast
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2018, 12:45:05 PM »
   In the bible all things are named and likened unto as you find the explanation in there. Like a man that eats the crumbs that fall from the Lords table is considered or likened unto as a DOG. Treads thew word under foot is a swine.Wise in his own worldly way the are foxes. And so on. A senseless and ignorant is as a beast. So if he is without the words of Jesus and ignorant of those teachings he is marked as a beast.There is no physical mark.
   So when the disciples left Jesus and his teachings they became ignorant as the beast. Look at psalms 73 v22

If you choose to believe or promote any theology Collin, it can only be legitimately done on the very words of scripture, not the chapter and verse numbers.
Using the latter, instantly cancels all veracity you might otherwise have in your argument.

Ask yourself how people interpreted scripture in the 1500 years prior to chapter and verses being added?

You also need to realise that some chapter and verse positions vary across different languages. Thus "The Lord is my shepherd" comes from Psalm 23 for most of us, but is found in Psalm22 in some translations!
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: The mark of the beast
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2018, 06:21:03 PM »
Hi guys  :D,

Some really interesting debate here.

On a practical note my belief is that the mark is when the devil has completely sealed up your ability to use your imagination (part of the heavenlies) which is in the  frontal lobe / forehead.

To keep your imagination therefore do anything that will stimulate your imagination:
  • Relax (important) and dwell in the word of God.
  • Sounds silly but the logic is there - actually to stimulate frontal lobe use, pepper mint oil and give the benefit of the doubt and draw a cross with the oil.
  • Read imaginative novels such as the Chronicles of Narnia - all ages actually as the metaphors are there.
  • A lot of Christians have a "deep faith" and wont seal up - so deepen your faith and draw near to God as Father through loving others and the reading the Word and get that deep faith.
  • Actually drink or eat high iron foods e.g. Scotland's (the resistance) Iron Bru and if your so fed up you have to drink then have two Guinness lol.


If you find this helpful or prudent then please ask and I will post more.

Bless ya!
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