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Offline francis drake

God is a capitalist. Socialism is demonic.
« on: May 07, 2018, 07:12:06 PM »

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I am sure this thread is going to wind people up, but it needs exploring.

God's perspective of the world is illustrated in the Law of Moses which he gave to the brand new nation of Israel. Simply put, society was on the basis of the family and tribal unit and small government.

In the general understanding of the word, God created a capitalist society. Each community took care of its own in terms of law and order and punishment.

Socialism was created by Satan as a way to destroy society, starting with the family. His intention was to replace the family by a powerful central government that would ultimately act like God.






Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: God is a capitalist. Socialism is demonic.
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2018, 09:48:35 PM »
Is interesting.  It is weird. Gods already said what will happen. Yet satan is gullable enough to do exactly what God has said and try to take over the worlds governments into one universal Babylon all over again... Of corse he won't succeed for long. God won't let him.

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Re: God is a capitalist. Socialism is demonic.
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2018, 07:17:21 AM »
Actually God's way of how socoety should function is neither capterlistic or socialistic.

What God intended is a mixture of both. Families were to support themselves through farming, working at a trade or in trading, but they as part of a greater society were also to care for the poor.
Land the source of food was not to be sold, it could only be sold untill the next jubilee year.
Those poor who were desitute could sell themselves into 'slavery' again untill the next jubilee year.
Farmers were to leave crops for the poor to glean, creditors were not to hold a poormans cloak as sureity against a loan overnight etc etc

The idea was to form a society that worked and cared for all members of the community.

Offline francis drake

Re: God is a capitalist. Socialism is demonic.
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2018, 09:10:07 AM »
Actually God's way of how socoety should function is neither capterlistic or socialistic.

What God intended is a mixture of both. Families were to support themselves through farming, working at a trade or in trading, but they as part of a greater society were also to care for the poor.
Land the source of food was not to be sold, it could only be sold until the next jubilee year.
Those poor who were destitute could sell themselves into 'slavery' again until the next jubilee year.
Farmers were to leave crops for the poor to glean, creditors were not to hold a poor mans cloak as surety against a loan overnight etc etc

The idea was to form a society that worked and cared for all members of the community.
Thank you John, everything you describe is correct, except that it is the very antithesis, and enemy of "Socialism".

Dictionary definition of "Socialism"
A system of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.


The above definition of socialism is light years away from what God gave in the Law of Moses. Socialism gives central government the power to confiscate personal wealth and give it to whomsoever they choose. That usually means their voters.
Socialism permits no freewill or personal decision making, such as that done by Boaz when he told his men to make sure there was plenty left behind to glean.

Dictionary definition of Capitalism
An economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.


You can see the above definition of Capitalism applied throughout the Law of Moses.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: God is a capitalist. Socialism is demonic.
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2018, 02:08:53 PM »
Hi
I thought God was more in favour of a monarchy isn't that what will happen on Christs return Christ will reign as King of Kings.

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Offline francis drake

Re: God is a capitalist. Socialism is demonic.
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2018, 02:24:14 PM »
Hi
I thought God was more in favour of a monarchy isn't that what will happen on Christs return Christ will reign as King of Kings.
Thanks for mentioning that Dave. In actual fact, the monarchy in Israel was an act of rebellion against the reign of God over them.

1Sam8v7And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
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Re: God is a capitalist. Socialism is demonic.
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2018, 04:16:43 PM »
@Deborah, I have accidentally messed up your post when trying to respond. I must have clicked the "modify tab rather than the "quote" tab. Before I realised it, much of your content got deleted. Below is what's left after I scrubbed out my responses (Which are in a fresh post below.)
I hope you can perhaps copy and paste the missing bits and tidy it back to its original form.
I apologise profusely in sack cloth and ashes.
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Why do you say, "In the general understanding of the word, God created a capitalist society." That's not what I understand 'capitalism' to be. The old 'tribal' type of society was neither capitalism nor socialism.
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Both capitalism and socialism are problematic in their pure forms.



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In pure capitalism everything revolves around profit; there is no sense of social responsibility, and the weak get exploited and trampled on.
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Most modern countries are run on a balance between capitalism and socialism, hopefully enabling us to get the best of both worlds.
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." (Mark 12:30)

Offline francis drake

Re: God is a capitalist. Socialism is demonic.
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2018, 02:21:43 PM »
Why do you say, "In the general understanding of the word, God created a capitalist society." That's not what I understand 'capitalism' to be. The old 'tribal' type of society was neither capitalism nor socialism.
Israel wasn't your typical "tribal" society, it was expressly capitalist by design as can be seen if you compare the Law of Moses with the definition below.-
Dictionary definition of Capitalism
An economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

Each tribe and each family was given land in perpetuity from which to live and make profit, just as in the definition above.
Central government played no part in the operation of this.

As @John stated yesterday, the family land could never be sold but only rented out till the next Jubilee year. This ensured that the debts of a profligate family would never bring disaster on all future generations.
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Both capitalism and socialism are problematic in their pure forms.
Socialism in the last century was the biggest source of mass murder on the planet, being responsible for many hundreds of millions dead in war and peace.
And modern capitalism is so infected by socialist ideals that it is hardly recognisable.
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In pure capitalism everything revolves around profit; there is no sense of social responsibility, and the weak get exploited and trampled on.
You are not describing capitalism, you're describing plain unfettered greed which works with equal power through all political ideologies. Socialism infantilises a nation.
Capitalism, as the description states, is merely about people taking personal responsibility for their own livelihood etc. As a principle, capitalism produces the greatest wealth for the greatest number of people. How we spend that money is between us and God.
Despite people railing against capitalism, at heart, each man or woman is a capitalist. Each of us wants to make the best of what we can earn by whatever means we can do it. We would prefer to make our own choices about what we spend money on etc and not have others control it. We would prefer to choose our own areas of charitable giving than have others tell us.
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Most modern countries are run on a balance between capitalism and socialism, hopefully enabling us to get the best of both worlds.
There is no best side of Socialism. It was created by Satanists as a way to destroy the family by getting the state to usurp the responsibility of the parents etc. We are seeing the fruits of that right now.

Adolf Hitler was a socialist.
Joseph Stalin was a socialist.
Mao Tse Dung was a socialist.
Pol Pot was a socialist.
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Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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