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Offline Collin

Seek yee first the kingdom of heaven
« on: April 21, 2018, 08:30:49 AM »

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     It was a puzzle for me where to look for the kingdom of heaven. What is heaven? Heaven is the place where we find the Lord and hear God's voice. Where we are in fellowship with God.The place of higher righteousness,above this earth or world. When the disciples went up the mountain with Jesus at the transfiguration, they heard God speak. They saw Jesus as he is pure and clean and white as snow. Righteousness itself is a mountain too or like one and we must strive to go higher and higher.The righteousness of a man is his mountain and Gods is the bible but likened unto as Zion. Moses had his and Jesus often said for us to come up higher.The scriptures are written in earthly teachings and the righteousness of the earth is law so it is as written a book of law. The elevated understanding of the bible is above the earth and higher. This is the spiritual understanding and that's it. The more you seek the higher you go.




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Re: Seek yee first the kingdom of heaven
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 01:55:12 PM »
     It was a puzzle for me where to look for the kingdom of heaven. What is heaven? Heaven is the place where we find the Lord and hear God's voice. Where we are in fellowship with God.The place of higher righteousness,above this earth or world. When the disciples went up the mountain with Jesus at the transfiguration, they heard God speak. They saw Jesus as he is pure and clean and white as snow. Righteousness itself is a mountain too or like one and we must strive to go higher and higher.The righteousness of a man is his mountain and Gods is the bible but likened unto as Zion. Moses had his and Jesus often said for us to come up higher.The scriptures are written in earthly teachings and the righteousness of the earth is law so it is as written a book of law. The elevated understanding of the bible is above the earth and higher. This is the spiritual understanding and that's it. The more you seek the higher you go.
   God's word is a sword so what is the higher teaching above put a man to the sword. kill him or make him study the bible.What does God want? In this world is a great sea of disbelievers, sea of inequity. What means more to us ,we take Jesus's hand and stay above that and not sink into iniquity and disbelief. The knowledge and understanding of God is a light for our feet and will open your eyes and take you out of darkness. make the blind to see the truth and things of God. Turning on a light bulb doesn't bring us closer to God. The bible is our Spiritual guide and what it teaches us is spiritual if you take the higher way.

Offline John

Re: Seek yee first the kingdom of heaven
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 02:22:42 PM »
What does the bible say.
Matt 8:32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

As I understand it, we have to put God first in our lives, for we are inhabitants of heaven and should be seeking to live to bring glory to God.

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Re: Seek yee first the kingdom of heaven
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 04:17:28 PM »
Hi
Where is the kingdom of heaven its where God is of course I believe the kingdom that is spoken of in the NT is Christs millennial reign and when we become part of his body the church we will have access to that kingdom.
the other point I would like to make is we don't go up to heaven heaven comes down to us in the form of the new Jerusalem, we already live in paradise which mankind with the help of satan has turned into hell.
But Christs millennial reign will rectify this then he will hand everything back to the father and God will be all in all and the new Heaven and earth will begin

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Offline Mountain Goat

Re: Seek yee first the kingdom of heaven
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2018, 10:43:30 PM »
Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness... Relates to mankind's trying to do things through mankinds efforts?
Heaven? Where is it? It is definitely a place. I've been there. I was taken up in the spirit. My body was lying on the church floor. In Heaven, my body and mind functioned the same way as they do on earth in that I could walk, run etc. I could touch and feel.
Some in the past have said that the soul is mind, will and emotions, but I very much disagree with that as my soul was with my body. It had to be or the body would have died when I was taken up in the spirit. Heaven is up. That is all I know! When I was taken in the spirit, I was taken up. ↑
I guess it is similar but the other way when God has allowed people to see Hell. I've not seen it and never want to!
The kingdom of Heaven is different to Heaven. The kingdom of Heaven is describing all the believers who have put their faith in Jesus Christ. They have entered into the kingdom of Heaven while here on Earth as Jesus has given us "Tickets" to get there! (My words to describe it).
I dont quite get higher and higher as if there was a scale according to what one has done. This seems a little like faith by works? Maybe I'm missunderstanding a bit here.

Offline Collin

Re: Seek yee first the kingdom of heaven
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2018, 11:44:36 PM »
     I've been trying to say if you are seeking the kingdom of heaven , search the scriptures an there in the higher elevated understanding you will see heaven.

Offline Collin

Re: Seek yee first the kingdom of heaven
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2018, 11:57:27 PM »
Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness... Relates to mankind's trying to do things through mankinds efforts?
Heaven? Where is it? It is definitely a place. I've been there. I was taken up in the spirit. My body was lying on the church floor. In Heaven, my body and mind functioned the same way as they do on earth in that I could walk, run etc. I could touch and feel.
Some in the past have said that the soul is mind, will and emotions, but I very much disagree with that as my soul was with my body. It had to be or the body would have died when I was taken up in the spirit. Heaven is up. That is all I know! When I was taken in the spirit, I was taken up. ↑
I guess it is similar but the other way when God has allowed people to see Hell. I've not seen it and never want to!
The kingdom of Heaven is different to Heaven. The kingdom of Heaven is describing all the believers who have put their faith in Jesus Christ. They have entered into the kingdom of Heaven while here on Earth as Jesus has given us "Tickets" to get there! (My words to describe it).
I dont quite get higher and higher as if there was a scale according to what one has done. This seems a little like faith by works? Maybe I'm missunderstanding a bit here.
   I've had that happen to me too, even,, a couple times. I've been in the Spirit several times and meat the angel of the Lord And sure I meet Mother Mary three times or more but she didn't look like they show her on the pictures and she never introduced herself but he was from the Lord.

Offline Mountain Goat

Re: Seek yee first the kingdom of heaven
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 09:41:39 PM »
Interesting. Do you have a Catholic background? The reason why I ask is sometimes the Lord shows you things which have a meaning to you personally.
Television is often of target when it does to what people look like etc and so are paintings. Each one is their interpretation of what they think people looked like etc. For a start, all the disciples were much younger then the film makers assume. I'd never thought of it, but I recently heard a Rabbi talk on the subject and he gave his reasoning based on how the Jews lived etc. He said they would be between the ages of 14 (Which one would be classed as an adult) to about 18 when Jesus called them to follow him.
Mary was portrayed in one recent film as wearing a blue dress or garment. Now this Rabbi told us that in those days, because blue dye was so difficult to come by, you had to be wealthyjust to own blue tastles on your clothing, never mind a whole garment. Even kings or queens would find it difficult to have a whole blue garment as to get blue dye out there in those days was very difficult, as to get one drop which would be enough to dye a very small area of cloth would take catching and crushing 10,000 sea snails to produce the dye.
Hence why we get the term "Royal blue" as only royalty had a hope of obtaining cloth in that colour.

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