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Offline francis drake

Re: Christians and Miracles/Mark 6:52
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2018, 06:06:16 PM »
a miracle is a miracle - what is under review is present and past reactions as demonic and hardening of hearts etc - thanks for the thanks for [The song of Bernadette] - wincam

Pharaoh's magicians performed miracles by occult power. This is similar to the demonic nonsense behind Catholic pagan idolatry of Mary.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Christians and Miracles/Mark 6:52
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2018, 09:25:17 PM »
As always twinc, you don't explain or elaborate, you just make unclear statements.

Were has any postor here shown unbelieve in miracles or a demonic attitude.

That many are skeptical ( have a hard heart ) about claims of miracles is the only accurate thing you've said.


we didn't have to wait too long but your answer is supplied by the post by  francis drake - wincam
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Re: Christians and Miracles/Mark 6:52
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2018, 09:33:22 PM »
Pharaoh's magicians performed miracles by occult power. This is similar to the demonic nonsense behind Catholic pagan idolatry of Mary.


as stated nothing has changed in attitudes and responses even Jesus was accused of performing His miracles of casting out devils by the power of the devil and it had to be shown how ridiculous this belief was - btw see John';s post - wincam
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Re: Christians and Miracles/Mark 6:52
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2018, 09:40:39 PM »
Twinc,
           have a read of this interview about an investigation into the miraculus.
It is by a protestant xjournalist Lee Strobel. His investigations are always very thorough.:-
https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2018/03/do-miracles-happen-an-interview-with-lee-strobel/


no doubt but to be taken with a pinch of salt between what is claimed and what is actually so just as most are claiming to have been born again and inspired and guided and indwelt by the Holy Spirit but this is unforgiveable blasphemy imho - wincam
https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2018/03/do-miracles-happen-an-interview-with-lee-strobel/
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Re: Christians and Miracles/Mark 6:52
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2018, 07:46:09 AM »

no doubt but to be taken with a pinch of salt between what is claimed and what is actually so just as most are claiming to have been born again and inspired and guided and indwelt by the Holy Spirit but this is unforgiveable blasphemy imho - wincam
Interesting responce to a careful and thorough investigation into miracles, but then as far as you are concerned the only Christians are those who are members of the roman catholic church.
All other Christian dinominations are in your and the RCC opinion false.

Your method of posting is worthy of your being a jesuit, in that you do not clearly say what you believe, like mi5 you are 'economical with the truth'. Which as you claim to be a Christian is a direct contradiction of Jesus's teaching from the sermon on the mount, about the spiritaual breaking of the 10C.

Think about  it twinc

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Re: Christians and Miracles/Mark 6:52
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2018, 05:46:14 PM »
Interesting responce to a careful and thorough investigation into miracles, but then as far as you are concerned the only Christians are those who are members of the roman catholic church.
All other Christian dinominations are in your and the RCC opinion false.

Your method of posting is worthy of your being a jesuit, in that you do not clearly say what you believe, like mi5 you are 'economical with the truth'. Which as you claim to be a Christian is a direct contradiction of Jesus's teaching from the sermon on the mount, about the spiritaual breaking of the 10C.

Think about  it twinc

Interesting responce to a careful and thorough investigation into miracles, but then as far as you are concerned the only Christians are those who are members of the roman catholic church.
All other Christian dinominations are in your and the RCC opinion false.

Your method of posting is worthy of your being a jesuit, in that you do not clearly say what you believe, like mi5 you are 'economical with the truth'. Which as you claim to be a Christian is a direct contradiction of Jesus's teaching from the sermon on the mount, about the spiritaual breaking of the 10C.

Think about  it twincam



think instead of the sermon on the plain and the woes - wincam
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Re: Christians and Miracles/Mark 6:52
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2018, 10:48:34 AM »
The woes are very interesting, woe to you Priests, you hypocrites, teaching people to follow rituals and to obey religious laws rather than to follow Jesus.
It is certainly an apt condemnation of the RCC.

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Re: Christians and Miracles/Mark 6:52
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2018, 06:15:32 PM »
A miracle is the birth of a child..but nore a miracle is the rebirth...  but it does not end there.. more the miracle of rebirth through the child...


it seems you missed it so I say again a miracle is a miracle - twinc
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