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Offline Ronnie

Healing can it be removed?
« on: March 11, 2018, 04:55:42 PM »
I had a major heart op.10 years ago,it saved my life but left me weak and out of breath .I experienced what I can only describe as a miracle
I felt so much better plenty of energy no out of breath. I sank to my knees thanking god. About 5 days later the miracle was gone, I was back
to my old weak self. How can this be why would God remove a miracle. Has anyone experienced this. Thanks. Ronnie.



Offline francis drake

Re: Healing can it be removed?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2018, 09:31:17 PM »
I had a major heart op.10 years ago,it saved my life but left me weak and out of breath .I experienced what I can only describe as a miracle
I felt so much better plenty of energy no out of breath. I sank to my knees thanking god. About 5 days later the miracle was gone, I was back
to my old weak self. How can this be why would God remove a miracle. Has anyone experienced this. Thanks. Ronnie.
I'm sorry but surely, this is about the success/fail rate of the NHS, not God.

One definition of the word "miracle" is the suspension of the natural laws of physics. Thus neither car engines, nor the mobile phone, nor NHS operations come under the heading of miracles. They might appear as miracles to the uninitiated, but the operate completely within the laws of physics.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Healing can it be removed?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2018, 11:49:21 PM »
I had a major heart op.10 years ago,it saved my life but left me weak and out of breath .I experienced what I can only describe as a miracle
I felt so much better plenty of energy no out of breath. I sank to my knees thanking god. About 5 days later the miracle was gone, I was back
to my old weak self. How can this be why would God remove a miracle. Has anyone experienced this. Thanks. Ronnie.


Hey @Ronnie and welcome to this board.

As far as I can muster - you had a heart operation , but then found yourself out of breath and then you experienced a miracle ? [is that how it happened ?]

So you really have to give more information

1. Are you a Christian.

2. How did you receive this healing.

3. Was the healnig after the operation.

4. Whyndid you believe it was God's healing...  etc


thanks  :D




Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Healing can it be removed?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 11:54:54 PM »


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No God's/Jesus healing would not be reversed - however - IF God healed you - lets say "of a heart condition AFTER an operation"

This does not mean you will not experience "other conditions" due to the body and it's deterioration.

God /Jesus - can raise people from the dead - but sooner or later they will still die.


Offline Ronnie

Re: Healing can it be removed?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 02:21:28 AM »
Hi Tes,
I had an aortic valve replaced 10 years ago the  op.saved my life but was never the same man as was expected. Yes iam a born again christian, go to Destiny church
In Shawl ands Glasgow. I have been living a half life very worn out ,grossly out of breath, also attended hospital clinic for the 10 years, with no diagnosis .A month ago
I had to drive to an appointment that included quarter mile walk (usually a marathon for me ) well that day I felt so alive, I felt I could have walked for miles.This lasted for several days, so I came to the conclusion that I had experienced a miracle .Then suddenly it vanished. I know that some Christians don't believe in present day miracles, but I do. But I don't understand why it would be withdrawn. Thanks. Ronnie.

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Healing can it be removed?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2018, 02:46:56 PM »
Hi Tes,
I had an aortic valve replaced 10 years ago the  op.saved my life but was never the same man as was expected. Yes iam a born again christian, go to Destiny church
In Shawl ands Glasgow. I have been living a half life very worn out ,grossly out of breath, also attended hospital clinic for the 10 years, with no diagnosis .A month ago
I had to drive to an appointment that included quarter mile walk (usually a marathon for me ) well that day I felt so alive, I felt I could have walked for miles.This lasted for several days, so I came to the conclusion that I had experienced a miracle .Then suddenly it vanished. I know that some Christians don't believe in present day miracles, but I do. But I don't understand why it would be withdrawn. Thanks. Ronnie.

Present day miracles very much exist [as does God]

 Well  your experience may well have been of God ... do'nt give up on it



Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Healing can it be removed?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2018, 12:41:19 AM »
Hi @Ronnie


No present day healngs of God/Jesus cannot be removed...

And your experience is not because of the things you have done...

When God heals it is a total healing... the point I was making was that once a person is healed - it does not mean they will not have another ailment in later life... and yes you are correct that God uses nurses and doctors/surgeons...

And your experience after the operation may have seemed temporal - but don't give up hope...

Maybe this was God's way of leading you to Himself ..



I see horses charging and a great battle and you are part of that battle [God cares very much for you and wants you to be in total health - He wants you to be free from heart problems...]


He still has a purpose for you...


He does not want you to give up - this is not the end of your life - see the purpose  God has for you...

Your experience has led you to seek help [sometimes God will use situations in life or near death experience to lead people to Himself

Quite often people will seek God at these times ..






Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Healing can it be removed?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2018, 11:03:17 PM »


You know it probably does'nt  anything to you.

But I keep getting horses, this black and white horse "pounding on the ground"

I'm beginning to see what this vision means now.  I keep getting "strength"

It's about your heart and peoples hearts or nations...
 
Something you did in the past makes you believe - you do not deserve amything @Ronnie  ?

I hear your heart pounding ..

I see your mother speaking to you... telling you off..

It does'nt make sense to me - vague pictures.

Maybe it will make sense to you

This black and white horse is about the forces of good and evil [in your life]

Did you do something or was this about parents ?