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Offline francis drake

Re: Donald Trump, God's man for this time.
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2019, 10:40:34 PM »

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I have to say, frankness is not something i associate with Donald Trump.  He seems to have a problem with truth.  I can?t believe Christians are so gullible and desperate,  he needs to go asap, while the US has at least a tiny bit of credibility left.
I completely disagree Tara. I think you are the one being gullible and misinformed.

The US and UK media has been doing a massively powerful hit job, a character assassination on Trump since the very start of his campaign, all for a very specific reason.
Just like in the UK Westminster elites, Washington is a huge clique of incestuous control freak elites. And Trump is not one of them, according to them, he doesn't belong there. That's why many Republicans started the Never Trump campaign. Unfortunately for the elites, the voters were sick and tired of the lies of the elites and elected a complete outsider.

These elites on both sides of the Atlantic have a determined plan and direction they want to take our nations, which is towards world government, completely behind the backs of the people, by deception.

That's why we regularly see gov't decisions being taken in concert with other gov'ts. ie. Everybody does gay marriage, hand in hand. The reason for this is that there are secret international groups to whom our political leaders owe allegiance and serve, instead of serving the people.
That's why Theresa May is doing her damnedest to prevent the referendum result being honestly carried out.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Offline francis drake

Re: Donald Trump, God's man for this time.
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2019, 11:17:52 PM »
I have to say, frankness is not something i associate with Donald Trump.  He seems to have a problem with truth.  I can?t believe Christians are so gullible and desperate,  he needs to go asap, while the US has at least a tiny bit of credibility left.

Tara
Coincidentally, immediately after my last post, I was looking at my emails and found someone had sent this link.
https://newswars.com.au/30-reasons-cioccolanti-donald-trump-is-the-most-honest-president-in-american-history/

30 Reasons Donald Trump is the MOST HONEST President in American History
30 Indisputable Facts for Christians Who Hate Trump by Pastor Steve Cioccolanti


Take it or leave it, but at least check the link out.
Trump is doing what he said he would do, despite Congress and the Senates desperate attempts to stop him

https://newswars.com.au/30-reasons-cioccolanti-donald-trump-is-the-most-honest-president-in-american-history/
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline TaraH

Re: Donald Trump, God's man for this time.
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2019, 11:23:05 PM »
Hi @francis drake ,

I?m really not gullible, ive spent a lot of time in the US over the years, just back in fact, so i?m well versed in all the spin.  However, political details aside, i?m talking about basics, Trump has a problem telling the truth.  So even before we get into policy, there?s a major issue.

Tara

Offline francis drake

Re: Donald Trump, God's man for this time.
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2019, 07:38:09 PM »
Hi @francis drake ,

I?m really not gullible, ive spent a lot of time in the US over the years, just back in fact, so i?m well versed in all the spin.  However, political details aside, i?m talking about basics, Trump has a problem telling the truth.  So even before we get into policy, there?s a major issue.

And why is Trump worse than Obama, or any other US politician or president?
There is plenty of online information listing Obama's abundant lies, but because of the lovefest the msm had with him, he was given a free pass!
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline TaraH

Re: Donald Trump, God's man for this time.
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2019, 10:22:58 AM »
Hi @Indonesia,

You said

I am neither saying Mr Trump is corrupt or not corrupt for fundamentally we all are. Only consider Henry V111 described as a corrupt King, who God used to overturn a political system for the sake of the Kingdom of God.

Henry VIII is a bad example, he did what he did so he could divorce his wife, nothing about doing right by god, he used god, not the other way about.

Donald Trump is doing the same, using god as an excuse to incite hatred, encourage racism and invent divisions in society that don't even exist.   He does get a bad press, and of course a lot of it is rubbish, but a lot of it isn't, and what he's most ridiculed about are the blatant lies, not from unnamed sources, or spokesmen for the whitehouse, but directly from him, witnessed by all of us .  Reminds me of a comment from my Mum during some big trial reported on tv:-

Mum - he's lying
Me - how do you know?
Mum - his lips are moving

Tara

P.S @Indonesia, what was it you asked about the prayer study?

Offline Indonesia

Re: Donald Trump, God's man for this time.
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2019, 12:52:01 PM »
In an ideal world where God is worshipped in truth, unity is great.

Just  not in a world in this present time , where they collaborate together in hatred towards God, persecuting him, misrepresenting him and his loving nature.

Its like a gang of bullies coming together making false accusations, controlling others to join in  and persecuting a completely innocent, thoroughly kind, loving good person. Only much much worse.
I don't tolerate that and especially not to God.

I was not presenting either Henry viii or Donald Trump in any good way but that certain people can overturn situations, for the sake of God's Kingdom ie overturning the evil nasty widespread global gang against him. That by the way can for the time being prevent more evil for the sake of humankind, as well.
God can work through people or situations, whether they are good or bad.

With your prayer study. I was asking whether it was based on "christianity"or other religions.
God looks at the heart  reasons behind prayers and the answer to effective prayers are found in humble intentions. The bible can be studied for that and seeking God and his truth in humility and sincerity. James 5:15-20

Offline TaraH

Re: Donald Trump, God's man for this time.
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2019, 02:53:28 PM »
Hi @Indonesia ,

you said

Just  not in a world in this present time , where they collaborate together in hatred towards God, persecuting him, misrepresenting him and his loving nature.

Its like a gang of bullies coming together making false accusations, controlling others to join in  and persecuting a completely innocent, thoroughly kind, loving good person. Only much much worse.
I don't tolerate that and especially not to God.

I don?t see this at all, who are these bullies, and what is it they are doing that makes you think it?s collaborating against god?  Sorry, i?m a bit slow on the uptake, it?s probably obvious to everyone except me 😆

Tara

Offline francis drake

Re: Donald Trump, God's man for this time.
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2019, 05:26:11 PM »
Donald Trump is doing the same, using god as an excuse to incite hatred, encourage racism and invent divisions in society that don't even exist.   
Obama is the one who deliberately fomented massive racial divisions in US society purely to get power and keep it.
Obama presented himself as both Christian and devout Muslim, depending where he was speaking.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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