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Offline Sharky and George

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2018, 10:10:56 AM »
Maybe we should just forgive each other instead as this is the forgiveness thread.

Ask other members of their opinion if it is what I thought it was.

Peace out.

Online John

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2018, 12:31:51 PM »
S+G,
           Forgiveness implies that someone has done wrong, so far all that has happened in this thread is that truth has been expressed against falsehood.
Those expressing truth have no need to ask for forgiveness, unless they are too forcefull in opposing those who wrongly say that Christians Must Always forgive when there is no repentance.

Please can you provide chapter and verse where it says that God forgives without there being any repentance?

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2018, 03:05:55 PM »
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Do you think the Roman soldiers said sorry?

I think you are talking about "unknown/ unconscious sin"   :D



Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2018, 12:10:01 AM »
Forgiveness is so important and we should always forgive as Jesus said we should do it 77 times 7 times (keep on forgiving). My opinion is that we should then even if they have not said sorry or ask for forgiveness:
As the Romans banged the nails through His hands on the cross He prayed Father forgive them for they do not know what they do. Do you think the Roman soldiers said sorry?

Hi @Sharky and George and welcome to this forum site   :D

Yes I agree, the Roman soldiers were guilty of sin [as we hang Jesus on a tree]

I get your drift bro.

And yes there is a difference between sin and unknown sin or "ignorance" of it...




Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #60 on: June 24, 2018, 12:13:43 AM »
Father God I forgive the people who have sinned against me as they are hurting and do not understand what they do.
Please forgive me Father, I confess my sins before you and I repent of them. Please help me to change my ways, I love you Father and I know that I am the world to you.

Amen bro,

They did not understand what they did and neither do they now... @Sharky and George

It's gret to have you posting on this forum and don't worry about making mistakes..



 

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #61 on: June 24, 2018, 12:17:12 AM »

Yes the Roman probably had a conscience - but were blind to what they had done [therefore - why should they repent before  a God they did not believe in ?]

Excelent posting and thanks for your contributions...

So many people become members without being committed - I see you have the beginnings of committment and it is valuable in this day and age...




Offline Sharky and George

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2018, 12:31:45 AM »
Tes, thankyou for saying that, I needed it.

Bless ya.

Offline davetaff

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2018, 04:37:27 PM »
S+G,
           Forgiveness implies that someone has done wrong, so far all that has happened in this thread is that truth has been expressed against falsehood.
Those expressing truth have no need to ask for forgiveness, unless they are too forcefull in opposing those who wrongly say that Christians Must Always forgive when there is no repentance.

Please can you provide chapter and verse where it says that God forgives without there being any repentance?

Hi John
Thank you for your post there is another aspect to forgiveness and that is making peace when we offer forgiveness we are also striving to make peace.

Jas 3:16  For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
Jas 3:17  But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
Jas 3:18  And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.       


Can you supply chapter and verse where it says someone must repent before forgiveness is given then we have these words of our Lord


Luk 11:4  And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
   


Are we to wait for all those who sin against us to repent in which case we could be waiting for ever so if we don't forgive them will our father forgive us.

Love and Peace
Dave