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Offline Sharky and George

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Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2018, 01:10:15 AM »
Forgiveness (not holding any grudge) is essential to be a joyful Christian (not in torment) - sets a Christian free from torment.
Who are we not to forgive others if we have been forgiven.
It is right that we should be put in a spiritual torment until we forgive from the heart (proper forgiveness) - this is written in the unjust manager part in the gospels.

Keep short accounts with God and you will feel spiritually pukka.

If you find it hard to forgive then maybe imagine that the person who sinned against you was upset/hurting (that is what made them do it). Maybe imagine them crying so that you find it easier to have empathy when you pray "Father I forgive them, please forgive me for my sin".



Something I wondered about - the scripture that love covers offenses. I wonder if we can love someone to cover for the spiritual torment deserved after sin (unforgiveness is a sin) until we forgive. Anyone got any ideas about that? I am not sure yet - I just try and forgive ASAP.




So naff off! Only messing lol :)

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2018, 01:14:44 AM »
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Something I wondered about - the scripture that love covers offenses. I wonder if we can love someone to cover for the spiritual torment deserved after sin (unforgiveness is a sin)

Love is blind,  Bro ...


But after time we can wake up...





Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2018, 01:21:27 AM »

I wonder if "God all knowing" is blind...

[not just forgiving but -0 maybe also forgetting - like we do blindly ....


see : Isaiah 43:25  "I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

Just as if I had never sinned - that's Justification ...   

Thrown out of this court of law 

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2018, 01:23:27 AM »


So my point is that there is a difference between the two...


Offline Sharky and George

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Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2018, 01:29:44 AM »
I like what you have said as it sounds deep but I am struggling to understand it.

I am a turkey, really - I thought that red scripture quote of yours was your signature LOL so I did not read the rest!


Love is blind - where He sees past our sin and just sees us as a needy person He cares for?

Forgetting - yes, completely letting go of it, defo agree.



I am on that car insurance website atm lol - confused.com  :D

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2018, 01:34:53 AM »


You may forgive but you  never forget - as a human being...

If you did forget then you would be suicidal and that was not how God designed you...

However God can forget .... Just - As - If - You - Had - Never - Sinned...


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Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2018, 01:36:29 AM »
I need to get some kip Bro.

Some deep stuff and thankyou for trying to teach me (a turkey).


Bless ya  :D

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Forgiveness, unconditionally
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2018, 01:41:54 AM »

Bless ya

And sing "we are the self preservation societyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"

I will never forget the wrongs against me - but I can forgive...  forgiveness is not  forgetfulness [hope that makes sense..

The same as I can never save anyone  - cos only God can...


Anyway have a good kip bro