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How do Predestination and Free Will co exist !
« on: February 03, 2018, 12:04:44 AM »


How do Predestination and  Free Will co exist !



Offline francis drake

Re: How do Predestination and Free Will co exist !
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2018, 12:08:35 PM »

How do Predestination and  Free Will co exist !

Of course they do.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline John

Re: How do Predestination and Free Will co exist !
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2018, 06:38:35 PM »
They are two sides of the door into heaven.
We walk through it and it has the label free will, but once through if we lok back it is labeled predestined.

A silly picture but it puts the authority where it belongs with God.
It is he who saves us, sustains us and will greet us as we enter heaven.