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Offline wincam

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Lordship salvation
« on: January 10, 2018, 11:36:56 PM »
what exactly is it and are you for or against - your comments - wincam


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Offline John

Re: Lordship salvation
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 09:06:54 AM »
I think you need to use google to find out.
I found this in seconds :- https://www.gotquestions.org/lordship-salvation.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/lordship-salvation.html

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Lordship salvation
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 12:53:52 AM »
thanks @wincam another good topic - you seem to have the ability to create discussion




depends what I have made God "Lord over"   as you have entered "Lordship salvation" 

then yes the Lord can save us in this life

This touches on the old argument of 
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A Christian is a new creation and cannot just ?stop believing? and lose salvation.
as in the link John posted.

It attains that a beleiver cannot or new creation cannot "stop believing?

We now argue whethher believing and being a new creation has a defining difference.

I have seen many people whole heartedly give their lives to Christ  - only to go their own way "after a while"

So this theology of "Lordship/salvation" does not relate to the info posted in the link of "got questions"

It seems to imply that a new creation must be accomanied by life living and evidence of inward working.

There is a discrepency here.

That the evidence of salvation and Lordship somehow gives salvation or makes us "born again



Offline John

Re: Lordship salvation
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 03:02:32 PM »
As far as I understad it, Lordship Salvation teaches that in order to be saved there are two requirements. Faith and repentance, which is seen in the way the Christian lives.

This is where I am unsure/confused as I believe we are saved by faith in Jesus's death and resurrection, that coming to Jesus requires repentance. I believe it is faith in Jesus that saves us and that that faith preceedes any change in us.
That repentance is at the point of being saved the knowledge that I am a 'sinner' in need of salvation and that followin salvation that I see that I need to change.