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Offline francis drake

God's of the new age.
« on: January 04, 2018, 09:27:43 AM »



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The bible is full of named different gods, Baal Chemosh Ashtoreth, Moloch etc. These were served by the nations, and by Israel at various times.
We may look in wonder at how anyone in their right mind would bow down in front of an idol with big horns and teeth, maybe with wings, or even one shaped like male or female genitals.

Despite the fact that these statues have largely disappeared, the demonic gods behind them remain. They remain as pagan philosophies rather than just being encapsulated in a carved image. They are still worshipped.

Worship itself is also a misleading word. Church leads people to believe that worship is about singing. However the scriptures make it clear that worship is about bowing down and submitting to something or someone.

Strong's Concordance.
Worship- Hebrew 7812 shachah: to bow down
Original Word: שָׁחָה
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: shachah
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-khaw')
bow (5), bow ourselves down (1), bow yourselves down (1), bow down (21), bowed (16), bowed in worship (1), bowed themselves down (2), bowed down (14), bowing (1), bowing down (1), bows down (1), did homage (1), down in homage (1), homage (1), lie down (1), paid homage (3), prostrate (2), prostrated (13), prostrating (1), weighs it down (1), worship (47), worshiped (31), worshiping (3), worships (2).

Worship- Greek 4352 proskyn?ō (from 4314 /pr?s, "towards" and kyneo, "to kiss") ? properly, to kiss the ground when prostrating before a superior; to worship, ready "to fall down/prostrate oneself to adore on one's knees" (DNTT); to "do obeisance" (BAGD).

In both OT and NT worship primarily about whether we bow down and obey rather than just singing. Thus even if we sing for all our worth in church, God looks at what we bow down or submit to the rest of the week.
Of course there are areas we have no choice in submitting to, like the law of the land etc. But what about all the other choices we make, what are the hidden gods or Baals lurking behind the facades.

Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)



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Offline John

Re: God's of the new age.
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 06:29:11 PM »
        "But what about all the other choices we make, what are the hidden gods or Baals lurking behind the facades."
Just how much of a spiritual threat isin say the use of a Christmas tree, or a product with a pagan name?


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Re: God's of the new age.
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 06:50:54 PM »
People can make the bible and theology their god, becoming very much something that takes their 'senses' from the relationship they meant to be having with God. 

Often letting their preferred brand of theology and subsequent obscure combinations of various scriptures to back up these oddball theories.

In essence anything that takes your eyes, ears, tongues, noses and fingers from God can be an idol...including bible and theology.

Offline Carpenters Son.

Re: God's of the new age.
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 10:57:18 PM »
I can give an example that I saw of a lady who made church her god at one time in her life. She was a lovely young lady. What happened was that a Christian missionary couple I knew who were at retirement age happened to mention to me that we would make an ideal couple. They had talked to her and so I was given her phone number. I had often spoken to her older sister who was not shy in speaking to me (I tend to be shy). Anyway, to cut a long story short, I phoned her to ask if we could meet. She seemed very interested, but where I was even willing to make different plans to get a day for us to meet, she would not miss a single church or quior meeting. (She was part of the church quior).  During the phone call we went from day to day with her checking her diary, and every single evening she either had a church service or quior practice for an entire month. For me being a man and going to every meeting they did meant a four day a week event. Tuesdays prayer meeting. Thursdays Bible teaching. Fridays youth meeting which I helped at. And Sundays two meetings in morning and evening. However for her they had a women's meeting on Wednesdays and Mondays and Saturdays she had quior practice so she was in church seven days a week. Now I asked if she could take a day off and she wouldn't as church came first in her life. She was fully booked up for the entire month. I never asked her again after that!
Several years later a young man came into Christians Together chat site (Which is now part of this site). He encouraged me saying that he was going to look for a wife. He asked if I wanted to look, and we both ended up looking at Christian dating sites. I looked at one and there was that lady from church. It didnt surprise me that she was still looking!

What I am saying is that one can make church attendance ones god.
Another example was a lady I knew who my parents knew before I came along into this world. She lived next door to where I first lived. My mum visited her when she was in her 90's and went to give her the gospel message. She had been going to chapel every day since she was a young child and she said she had never missed a meeting (Or if she had it was extremely rare). She was still attending at every meeting. My mum felt the Holy Spirit had prompted her to give the gospel message so she did and the reply came back " You dont believe in Jesus and God do you?" She had been going for all those years to every meeting and didnt believe in God! I couldn't believe it when my mum told me what she had said. While I know ultimately it is between her and God (She passed away not long after my mum had given her the gospel message) it did really make me puzzle as to what they had been preaching in that chapel for all those years?

I will say that ultimately the subject is our own responsibility that we put God first. But I will say never put church before your relationship with God.



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